Charlotte (Nee Bishop) Crabb Shrimpton Allsop

  General Notes:

source: & Jon Heppell who notes:

Mary and Charlotte settled eventually in Parramatta, where Mary was employed by Governor Philip Gidley King as The Housekeeper at Government House, Parramatta, a position she held for over 10 years from 1800 until some nine months into the incumbency of Lachlan Macquarie. She acquired by grant and lease some 30 odd acres of land, both for tillage at Bringelly (Bishop's Farm), and a town lot in George St Parramatta, which she held until her death at Kurrajong on 1st January 1839, possibly as old as 87 years. Charlotte at age 14 (on 1st Jan 1806) received a 100ac land grant (Bishop's Farm) from King contiguous with and later absorbed into the King pastoral empire "Dunheved" on South Creek in western Sydney. She bore at least 10 children to six partners, three of whom she married. Charlotte died in 1851, also at Kurrajong, and she is buried in the cemetery of St Peter's at Richmond, in the same grave as her mother Mary.

HOWEVER HE ADDS:

I have FYI attached a referenced .pdf draft of my findings to date. It follows the story (of Mary) as it presently stands. The final link that I seek is documentary confirmation that Mary Bishop widow was Mary Bishop per Lady Penrhyn. All the evidence suggests this, but falls short of conclusive proof. Extensive research can find no other widowed Mrs Mary Bishop in the colony at the time of this seminal event. Therefore, as this remains a work in progress, and parts of the information are anecdotal or even speculative (insofar as being conclusions based on logic, or best available but incomplete information), rather than documented fact, I am not yet prepared to endorse its open publication. However, I feel with time that the appropriate sources will be uncovered to verify all of the above conclusions. In the meantime, my motive in limited circulation to serious researchers such as yourself is to hopefully stimulate further discovery, perhaps jog a memory, or somehow else turn up that elusive final proof.


According to Mollie Gillen, there were three male Bishops in the First Fleet; two of them (Elias and Thomas) were Marine Privates; the third (Joseph) was a convict. First Fleet 1788 2, which purports to be a transcription of the original First Fleet manifest, has Elias Bishop (Marine Private) on Alexander,3 Joseph Bishop(Convict) on Friendship,4 and Thomas Bishop (Marine Private) on the Supplementary Listing5 of those who arrived, but without a record of which ship. The Fellowship of First Fleeters has Elias (Marine Private) on Alexander,6 and both Joseph (Convict) and Thomas (Marine Private) on Friendship.7
Marine Private Thomas Bishop disembarked on Norfolk Island on the same day as Mary (Davis/Davies) Bishop in 1790 and returned on the same voyage in March 1793. The tracing of land grants, memorials, entitlements and transfers is building a convincing case that Thomas Bishop was the common law husband of Mary, and
the father of Charlotte Bishop. There is no known documentation to confirm a relationship with Mary either before or whilst he was on Norfolk Island. However, they were contemporaries. Mary
Davis travelled to Norfolk on the ill-fated HMS Sirius8. Thomas, who was a 21st Portsmouth Company of the Royal Marines private, was attached upon arrival in Sydney to Captain James Campbell's Company9, which was sent to Norfolk Island on the 4th of March 1790 on the ship Supply 10arriving at Norfolk Is. on the same date as Sirius.
Jon Heppell is eagerly awaiting further information if you might have any.

(S2) Richard married second CHARLOTTE (nee Davies/Davis/ Bishop) CRABB (ID: 8)
Who arrived on the 23rd March 1793 at Sydney Cove on board the "Kitty". (Aged 2 years)
(Daughter of Samuel Day (ID: 9) and Mary Davies/Davis/Bishop (ID: 10)

(S33)Page 170 of the Hawkesbury Pioneer Register
(Shrimpton), or born Jul 1791 or 1793.1828 census is 34 years?

(S7) Born: - Abt Jul 1791 at Norfolk Island Penal Settlement, N.S.W.

(S1)NSW BDM 1851 769 37B & V1851 1147 157: - Died: - 5 September 1851 at Kurrajong, N.S.W.
Buried: - 8 Sep 1851 at St.Peter's, Church of England, Richmond, N.S.W.

(S1)NSW BDM # M1819/2401-3. & V1819/907 147B: - They were married on the 9 Aug 1819, at St.John's Church of England, Parramatta, N.S.W. (Richard aged 57) (Charlotte aged 28)


(S3)Richard Shrimpton and Charlotte (nee Bishop) Crabb "Marriage Certificate".
(S2)Children: -
(1) Edward Francis Shrimpton (ID: 12) Born: - 2 Jan 1819 - (?).
(2) Charles Shrimpton (ID: 13)Born: - 24 May 1822 - 13 Mar 1865.
(3) Leah Shrimpton (ID: 14)Born: - 30 Dec 1824 - 6 Jun 1864.
(4) Richard (jnr) Shrimpton (ID: 15)Born: - 17 Nov 1826 - Abt 1912.

Some confusion when Charlotte dies and buried. Source (33) states 1851 Headstone Stated 1853
(S33)Charlotte Bishop and her mother Mary Davis/Davies (Bishop) are buried at North Richmond, with a headstone... it isn't "unmarked and forgotten" as the book (The Second Fleeters by Mathew Flynn) says. Charlotte is buried as CHARLOTPENTLY (all one word), and the First Fleeters, have put a plaque on the headstone to commemorate Mary Bishop.
As you go into the cemetery, turn left down the first track. About three quarters of the way along you will see a sandstone headstone with an arched top to the right.
(S3) (I have a photo of a Headstone)

(S3)Charlotte (Nee Bishop) Crabb/Shrimpton/Pentley "Headstone".

Plaque at Bottom Charlotte's Mother
Reads: -
MARY (DAVIS) BISHOP, ARRIVED FIRST FLEET, 26.1.1788, DIED 1.1.1839
FELLOWSHIP OF THE FIRST FLEETERS, 1993


(S2) A Daughter, Susannah was born to Charlotte in 1808 (Father unknown) (Charlotte aged 17)

(S2)Charlotte was married first toJAMES CRABB (ID: ? 191)
(A Soldier in the 73 Regiment) who arrived on the (?) at Port Jackson, N.S.W. on the (?)
Born: - (?). (S 33) Died: - Abt 1814 at (?).

(S3) Charlotte (Nee Bishop) and James Crabb "Marriage Certificate". # Page 88 Year 1811 # 342
They were married on the 18 Mar 1811 at St.John's, Parramatta, N.S.W.

(S36) Children: -
(1) Alexander William Crabb (ID: 203)Born: -14 Jan 1813.
(2) Mary Crabb(ID: 2421)Born: -7 Sep 1814 - 18 Aug 1854.

On the 1814 Muster Charlotte is shown as Charlotte Crabb, free on stores, with three children, and the wife James Crabb, Soldier of the 73rd Regiment. James seems to disappear from the records just after that, and it is not known if he died and his death unrecorded, or if he deserted his family and returned to England at the end of his tour of duty which is quite possible.

Charlotte secondly married RICHARD SHRIMPTON (ID: 4) (See above)
Charlotte thirdly married JOHN PENTLEY / PINTALA (ID: 2418)
(S33)Born: - Abt 1793 at England. Died: - 23 Apr 1843 at (?).
Buried: - Parish of St.Patrick's, Cumberland, N.S.W.
John's name is spelt "Pintla" on the Marriage Certificate/Registry.


(S3)Charlotte (Nee Bishop) Crabb/Shrimpton and John Pintla "Marriage Certificate".
NSW BDM # V1828/4431-3b & V1828/804-12: - They were married on the 22 Dec 1828 at St.James' Church of England, Pitt Town, N.S.W.

(S36)Charlotte (nee Davies/Davis/ Bishop) (Crabb) (Shrimpton) and John Pentley had (1) child
(1) Susannah Jane Pentley (ID: 2419) Born: - 31 Jul 1829.

(S7)Charlotte then had an association with FREDERICK ALLSOP (ID: 2420)
Born: - 3 Jan 1810 at Richmond, N.S.W. Died: - 22 Feb 1854 at Kurrajong, N.S.W.
Charlotte and Frederick Allsop had (1) child.
(1) Margaret Elizabeth Allsop (ID: 2421) Born: - 25 Apr 1833.

(S7)"The Second Fleeters" Author Matthew Flynn in 1993.
""Charlotte (nee Davies/Davis/Bishop) (Crabb), (Shrimpton), (Pentley), and (Allsop)
Charlotte was born in colony at Norfolk Island Abt 1791, an illegitimate daughter of Mary Davies/Davis/Bishop. (A convict from the First Fleet and an unknown father- (maybe Samuel Day).
With her mother Mary, she came to Sydney on board the "Kitty" in March 1793. (Aged 2).
Her mother was sent to Parramatta, and this is where Charlotte spent her childhood.
In 1806 she was with her mother who was working at Government House as a servant and living by 1809 in the main street of Parramatta. It was in Parramatta that Charlotte met James Crabb a soldier in the 73rd Regiment.
On the 1811 Muster she was shown as Charlotte Bishop, born in the Colony and free, at Parramatta.
On the 10th March 1811, at St.John's Church of England Parramatta, she marries James Crabb.
Their two children were born at Parramatta, Alexander William in (1813) and Mary in (1814).
Following the birth of Mary the family apparently moved to Sydney.
On the 1814 Muster Charlotte is shown as Charlotte Crabb, free on stores, with three children, and the wife James Crabb, Soldier of the 73rd Regiment. James seems to disappear from the records just after that, and it is not known if he died and his death unrecorded, or if he deserted his family and returned to England at the end of his tour of duty which is quite possible.
Charlotte then moved back to her mother's home at Parramatta, and meet Richard Shrimpton, whom she married at St.John's Church of England Parramatta, apparently accepted as a widow, on the 9th August 1819.

Richard had been born around 1762, possibly in Berkshire, England and had been convicted at Reading, Berkshire, on 3rd March 1788, and sentenced to life of transportation.
He arrived in the Colony on board the Scarborough on 28th June 1790 as part of the Second Fleet.
To Richard she was to have four children. Richard was from the Hawkesbury area, having property there, but their first child was born at Parramatta - Edward Francis in (1819).
They then moved to his farm and their next three children were all born at Wilberforce,
Charles, (1822), Leah, (1824) and Richard (1826).
Age was to take its toll on Richard, and he died on his farm on 11th July 1827, and was buried the next day at St. Johns Church of England Wilberforce.
On the 1828 Census, Charlotte is shown as 34 years of age, born in the colony, a farmer at Wilberforce, and had with her Mary, Leah and Richard. Alexander William was with his Grandmother at Parramatta.
There is no sign of Edward Francis or Charles, although Charles was defiantly alive.
Charlotte has 10 acres of land all cleared and cultivated, and one horse, apparently inherited from Richard.
On the 22nd December 1828, at St. Johns Church of England Wilberforce, Charlotte married for the third time, to John Pentley (shown in the register as Pintla). They moved to North Richmond, and their daughter Susannah Jane was born in (1829).
A little indiscretion was to occur in 1833, when Charlotte had a daughter, Margaret Elizabeth, to Fredrick Allsop. At this point John seems to be no longer living with Charlotte. It is probably at this time she moved her family to Kurrajong and moved in with her mother, Mary Bishop, moved in with her, probably to help with the small children and to give her comfort in her old age.
John died in 1843, and Charlotte lived until 5th September 1851, when she died in her home at Kurrajong.
She was buried three days later at St. Peters, interred with her mother, in a forgotten and unmarked grave"". End quote.

1829: - Moved to North Richmond N.S.W. Where daughter Susannah Jane (Born 1829)
1833: - Moved to Kurrajong without John Pentley/Pintla, but with daughter Margaret Elizabeth Allsop.

  Noted events in her life were:

• Arrived on the Ship: On board the "Kiitty " 1st Fleet salied from England on the 31 Mar 1792, 18 Nov 1792, NSW Australia.

• connection. The connection between Jon Heppell and myself goes like this:

Jon Heppell . . .
Is linked in some way to . . .
Mary Davis (aka Davies) (1761) who with Thomas Bishop
Had Charlotte Bishop (1791) who married Richard Shrimpton (c1762)
They had Richard Shrimpton (1826)
He had Richard 3^rd Shrimpton (1855) who married Susannah Jeffery (1857)
Her father was John Jeffery (1834)
His father was John Jeffery (1808)
His father was James Jeffery (1781) & he also had William Jeffery (1803)
He had James Jeffery (1837)
He had Mary Jeffery (1860) who married William South (1854)
They had Annie South (1891) who married Leslie Rice (1885)
They had Hazel Rice (1913) who married Emmett Whyte (1899)
They had Sandra Whyte (1943) who married Colin Parker (1936)
His father was Arthur Parker (1894)
His mother was Martha Parker (1872)
Her mother was Elizabeth Roser (1844)
Her father was John Roser & he also had John Roser (1838)
He had George Roser (1868)
He had Charles Roser (1897)
He had George Roser (1923) who married Olive Elliot (1924)
Her mother was Doris Emery (1903)
Her mother was Phoebe Davies (1876)
Her father was Joseph Davies (1852) & he also had G A Davies (1894)
He had Colin Davies (1925)
He had me Robyn Bray (nee Davies) (1950)

Charlotte married James Crabb on 18 Mar 1811 in St Johns C of E, Parramatta, Sydney, NSW Australia. (James Crabb was born on 1 Jan 1788 and died on 18 Feb 1818 in Annapoora, Ceylon.)

Charlotte next married Richard (The 1st) Shrimpton (Convict 2nd Fleet), son of Edward Shrimpton and Jane Sparrowvil, on 9 Aug 1819 in St Johns C of E, Parramatta, Sydney, NSW Australia. (Richard (The 1st) Shrimpton (Convict 2nd Fleet) was born about 1762-1764 in Ramsbury, Wiltshire England, christened on 25 Mar 1764 in Ramsbury, Wiltshire England, died in Jul 1827 in Wilberforce, County of Cumberland, NSW Australia and was buried on 12 Jul 1827 in Wilberforce, County of Cumberland, NSW Australia.)

Charlotte next married John Pentley Pintala (Convict) on 22 Dec 1828 in St James C of E, Pitt Town, NSW Australia. (John Pentley Pintala (Convict) was born in 1793 in Durham, County Durham England and died on 23 Apr 1843 in Sydney, NSW Australia.)

Charlotte had a relationship with Bishop. (Bishop was born circa 1790.)

Charlotte next married Frederick Allsop, son of William (convict second fleet) Allsop and Mary (convict) Atherley, in 1833. (Frederick Allsop was born on 3 Jan 1810 in Richmond, NSW Australia, died on 22 Feb 1854 in Kurrajong, NSW Australia and was buried on 24 Feb 1854 in St Peters C of E, Richmond, NSW Australia.)