Reverend Horatio Groube

  General Notes:

Horatio GROUBE, born about 1815, was christened 6th March 1815 at Above-Bar-Independent, Southampton, Hampshire, England. He was the second son of Thomas GROUBE and Anna Maria DODSON. Thomas joined the British Navy in 1793 and by the end of his career had risen to Rear Admiral. He had sailed with and fought under England's greatest naval hero, Lord Horatio Nelson. So who better to name his son after? Perhaps Thomas dreamed of Horatio following in his own footsteps with a life in the Navy. However, that was not to be. When he was only a youth Horatio decided to devote his life to the Christian ministry.
He studied firstly at Homerton College where he became a Matriculated Student. "13284 HORATIOS GROUBE, filus natu secundus Thomas.... archae, apud, comitat, de Devon."
He then studied at the University of Glasgow in 1837-8. The following is a copy of one of the two letters of reference Horatio received upon leaving Glasgow University: -

"GLASGOW COLLEGE
28th June 1838

Mr. Horatio Groube was enrolled as a student in the Moral Philosophy class at this university during the season 1837-8. Having been appointed by the faculty to teach this class, I have much pleasure in testifying that Mr. Groube was regular in his attendance, exemplary in his behaviour, and diligent and successful in prosecuting the business of the class. The essays which he wrote were to me satisfactory proof of his having studied the subjects upon which they were presented, and towards the conclusion of the session he underwent an examination upon the course of lectures which had been delivered in which he acquitted himself with merit. From any intercourse which I had with Mr. Groube I was strongly impressed with a sense of the excellence of his principles and the amiableness of him as positioned. It will give me pleasure to hear of his happiness and success in life.

(Signed) William Fleming "

Horatio continued his theological studies under Dr. Wardlaw who was at that time one of the professors of the Scottish Congregational Hall for the training of ministerial students.
Immediately upon leaving the University he took up the pastorate of the Congregational Church, Broadwinsor, and upon accepting the invitation was ordained at the age of 24 years.
In the same year the Reverend William Wright married Horatio to Julia Lever on The 13th December 1838 at the "Independent Meeting" in High street, Honiton, Devon, England. A daughter Ann Catherine Julietta Groube was born about 1839 at Honiton on Otter, Devon. Sadly Julie died on the 15th February 1841 at Honiton on Otter, Devon aged 34 years.
Horatio next became engaged to a Miss Humphreys. Then on the 2nd November 1841, he emigrated from Plymouth, England to New Plymouth, New Zealand on the Timandra, leaving behind his daughter Ann in the care of his sister Victorine.

Prior to the sailing of the ship, the following advertisement appeared in the London and Plymouth papers:

"New Plymouth, New Zealand. The Court of Directors of the New Zealand Company do hereby give notice that the new ship Timandra, A 1,430 tons burden, is chartered for the conveyance of cabin Passengers and free emigrants to the settlement of New Plymouth, to sail from London on the 10th, and from Plymouth on the 20th October. The settlement, to which about 500 persons have already emigrated from the West of England, has been located in the district of Taranaki, near the Sugar Loaf Islands.
Further sales of land in England are now restricted to actual settlers, who will receive liberal passage allowance, and the Timandra has been specially chartered on terms which will secure to families and others a passage to the settlement on liberal terms. By order of the Court of Directors - F. Dillon Bell, Secretary, New Zealand House (London), 16th September, 1841."

In the charter-party of the ship she is described as " The new (Little Hampton built) ship Timandra, of 382 registered tons by the old Act, now lying in London Dock, James Skinner, Commander; has a top-gallant forecastle, and unusual space on the main deck; height between decks, 6 feet 5 inches. We hereby offer the above ship, rated AI. at Lloyds, to convey passengers and stores from London to New Zealand at the rate of £3/19/5 per registered ton (or £1,517) for the voyage, subject to the terms and conditions, etc. Signed, John Nixon, owner." The ship's complement of officers and men was 22. The Timandra left Plymouth on November 2nd, 1841, the last pilot quitting the ship off Rams Head at 3 p.m.

The Plymouth Company of New Zealand was initiated at a public meeting held in Plymouth, England, on the 25th January, 1840. It was an association of Devon and Cornish gentlemen, with the Earl of Devon as governor, and with a strong body of influential men as directors. The aims of the Company, as set out in its prospectus, were 'to render available the resources of Devon and Cornwall, and to present to their inhabitants the means of participating in favourable prospects offered by this new field of colonization.' The Company's life as a separate body was brief for it became merged into the New Zealand Company of London in 1842. Before the Company became involved in financial difficulties which led to the merger with the New Zealand Company, six ships were dispatched to New Plymouth. These six vessels with the BROUGHAM, a barque of 250 tons, which sailed from Port Nicholson (Wellington) with surveyors and staff for laying out the settlement and landed them at Moturoa on the 12th February 1841, constitute the fleet bringing the pioneer founders of the 'Colony of New Plymouth' to these shores.

The first emigrant vessel the William Bryan departed Plymouth 19 November, 1840 and arrived at Moturoa Beach 30 March 1841 with 148 settlers from Devon and Cornwall. The Amelia Thompson followed landing 187 passengers 3rd September 1841. The Oriental arrived on 7 November 1841 with 130 passengers. Timandra was next followed by Blenheim on the 19 Nov 1842 with 138 passengers and the Essex on the 20 January 1843 with 115 settlers.

The fourth ship which was the Timandra sailing under Captain J. L. Skinner with Surgeon Superintendent George C. Forbes is described as: -
Stoutest and best found of all the vessels sent out to New Plymouth was the barque Timandra, 382 tons, which made the passage direct in 113 days. She left Plymouth on November 2, 1841, and arrived on February 23, 1842, bringing 212 passengers, the largest number sent out in any of the six vessels.
Horatio sailed with a small group of friends and some of his congregation hoping 'to establish a place of worship for themselves' in New Plymouth.
Although Horatio was the religious leader of the group its real leader was forty-one year old Josiah Flight, an impoverished flax manufacturer from Bridport who, with his wife Anne and young daughter, and Anne's brother and sister, William and Sarah Devenish, had purchased land in the new settlement. Joshiah brought out with him a small flock of Southland down sheep, the first seen in New Zealand
They were less than two weeks at sea when trouble arose. The surgeon, George Forbes, whose responsibility it was 'to preserve order' found he could not control the emigrants. They refused to get up in the mornings, turned up for their rations whenever they felt like it and abused anyone who tried to exercise authority. The 'tween decks' became a little Ireland of hell of swearing, filth, theft and pilfering'. Eventually Flight and Forbes organized a meeting of the cabin passengers and it was decided that Forbes should issue a proclamation against obscene language and insubordination and that Flight and Devenish would start a school so that the emigrants and their children could spend their time more usefully.
The next day many of the emigrants refused to attend the church service held by Horatio. One reason for the boycott was that the emigrants belonged to the Church of England and objected to Horatio's non-conformist services. However, another was that Horatio was associated with the censorious Flight and the emigrants were offended by the criticism of their behaviour and by the attempt to regulate their comings and goings.
The following Saturday they asked Forbes to read the Anglican service, as he was required to do by his instructions. After Forbes refused and when, on Sunday, Horatio was about to begin preaching to a small congregation, a disturbance among the steerage passengers put an end to the proceedings. His later services were poorly attended. A denomination split had emerged, paralleled by a conflict of the emigrants' behaviour that set a large group of the emigrants against the cabin passengers and the surgeon early in the voyage.
On the way out a call was made at Capetown, where a fortnight was spent, including Christmas Day. The Timandra seems to have been in luck all the way through, for she landed her passengers and cargo without a hitch in perfect weather, during her ten days stay off New Plymouth.
Horatio travelled as a Cabin passenger, listed: age 30 - Independent Minister. He also took with him a domestic servant by the name of Sarah GOOD. Sarah travelled as a Steerage Passenger, listed: age 24 - domestic servant.
Horatio began his practice as a Congregationalist Minister and Sarah kept house.
The Congregationalist (or Independent) Church was very old and populous in England, however, unfortunately for Horatio, had few followers among the early New Plymouth settlers.
The congregation was so tiny that it could be accommodated in a small raupo whare on Devon Street. Horatio had grown into a big, slow "gentle giant" type of man who neither took nor gave offence. Unlike other clergymen he did not go out actively seeking followers, therefore his congregation never looked like growing.
He also attempted the erection of a sandstone chapel on the corner of Courtney and Liardet Streets, New Plymouth. Midway through 1843 the money ran out and the building was left only half completed. Fortunately a solution was quickly found. The Wesleyans paid just a little bit more than the Independents had already outlaid and set about completing it. On September 10 1843 they opened it for their own use.
With the proceeds from the sale, a small wooden Chapel was erected in Devon Street East and Horatio ministered there for eleven years to a small congregation.

1843 was indeed an eventful one for Horatio as there was gossip in the community in regards to Horatio and Sarah's relationship. In September two women were out walking and had observed Horatio through the window of his house 'stripped stark naked, standing in a footbath in his kitchen' while Sarah washed and rubbed 'his posteriors'. Despite rigorous cross questioning, by whom is not very clear, but possibly by Henry King, the Chief Police Magistrate, the women stuck to their story. Horatio privately protested that he had been wearing his trousers, but refused to ask for a public enquiry at which he might have defended his innocence.
The incident was sufficient to make the New Zealand Company agent, John Wicksteed, who had been in the habit of attending Horatio's sermons, stay away from church.
Shortly after this event, it became known that Horatio's 'intended', Miss Humphreys, had arrived at Nelson from England.
With a fiancée whose arrival was imminent and a pregnant domestic servant who, according to Wicksteed, 'swears she has the best right to be the lawful wife, having been repeatedly promised marriage; and will not vacate bed or board', Horatio was in a quandary.
After hearing that things were not as they should be in New Plymouth, Miss Humphreys resolved the dilemma for him by leaving her ship and remaining in Nelson.
When she failed to arrive Horatio and Sarah were hastily married on the 28th October 1843. William Lakeman, the settlement's storekeeper, was their best man. The Wesleyan missionary, John Skevington, conducted the ceremony.
Some members of the community strongly disapproved of the proceedings and demonstrated their feelings in a disturbance outside Horatio's house. At least two New Plymouth settlers recorded the incident. John Newland, the gaoler, noted in his dairy: - that after the wedding "the populace were very indignant and expressed themselves in a very vociferous manner". And Wicksteed wrote to William Wakfield, his superior officer in Wellington, that, 'many blackguards, with a sprinkling of "aristocracy" kicked up a row about the house on the (stale) wedding night'. Just exactly what happened, apart from a lot of noise, and just who took part, we will probably never know, but it seems from these accounts that New Plymouth was witnessing, in a vestigial form, the old custom of charivari.
The charivari as a traditional expression of popular disapproval was usually directed at couples that violated accepted codes of moral behaviour, especially when such violations involved incongruous sexual liaisons. In its most elaborate form the charivari involved street theatre, processions and even physical chastisement of the offenders. In its least elaborate form it was a public shaming, involving a lot of noise and 'rough music', the banging of pots and pans and an unholy din of varied musical instruments. Horatio and Sarah were being punished for their cross-class marriage, for their co-habitation, and for Horatio's infidelity.

Just eight months after the wedding their first born, a daughter Caroline, arrived on the 26th June 1844. The following year another daughter was added - Marion, born 8th November 1845. Next two boys were born, George on the 18th June 1847 and Frederick Dodson on the 7th May 1849.
Another daughter Victorine arrived on the 28th January 1851.
The family appeared on the census in 1851 in New Plymouth as:
1 male, 2 females. 1 female 7 - 14 years. 2 males, 2 females under 7. Total - 3 males, 5 females.
Cultivation - 50 fenced acres. 32 3/4 were sown with wheat. 32 acres grass. 3/4 garden. 11 horned cattle, 41 sheep, 8 bovine. The extra female in the family must have been a domestic servant
An article in the Nelson Examiner and New Zealand Chronicle, 1 March 1845 reads: - NEW PLYMOUTH (from a correspondent) February 14, 1845, The Harvest: - In consideration of the loss sustained by the Rev. H. Groube from the smut in his wheat, several of the settlers, on Monday the 10th instant, volunteered their services for the day as reapers. The weather being fine, the field soon presented an animated and harvest-like appearance; and the customs of old England were not forgotten. Good plum-pudding and cake, roast beef, boiled pork, tea and grog were liberally provided, and the day was merrily spent to the satisfaction of the worthy host and his humble friends, the latter sturdily refusing any pecuniary compensation for their labour.
The Nelson Examiner and New Zealand Chronicle, 13 September 1845 also reported that: - Sixteen tons of potatoes to the acre were grown last year by the Rev. H. Groube, from English seed.
The Southern Cross, Friday, May 23 1851 reported that: - The 'Government Gazette' of Wednesday notifies the appointment of the Rev. Horatio Groube as Registrar of Births, Marriages, and Deaths for the district of New Plymouth.
In 1852 one of the other clergymen in the area, faced with the need to build a new church for his expanding flock, began a brazen recruiting drive He was literally on Horatio's own doorstep and tried to persuade Independents to change congregations. Horatio's response came in the form of a very polite letter to the Editor of the Herald, merely pointing out the unfairness of it all.
The poacher responded with an "all's fair in love, war and congregation building" vein. Soon a paper column war was being waged, with supporters and detractors of both sides having their say. Horatio was still content only to treat his opposition both in print and in public, with disarming pleasantness.
After a time the Editor brought the verbal battling to an end, and it was Horatio, nice though he was, who turned out to be the loser. He had lost enough of his followers that, when a fewer than half a dozen of his families left to take up land in the "upland" part of the Omata Block in 1853, his town congregation was halved in one fell swoop.
However, Horatio faced the challenge as he had always done. He formed a union with Primitive Methodist minister, the Reverend Joseph Long, who was likewise trying to provide a ministry for his followers in that area.
A piece of land was given to the two men by a Mr Henry Wright on the site of what is today the Hurdon Cemetery on Tukapa Street and a fund raising campaign was started. The required money was very quickly subscribed and Horatio and Reverend Long subsequently opened the chapel on August the 13th 1853.
A school was established in connection with the chapel.
In September 1853 Horatio advertised that he would pasture cattle for one shilling and three pence, and nine pence if under one year old, per week.
A further three children were added to the family - Anna Maria on the 10th of February 1853, Harry Boulderson on the 22nd July 1855 and Thomas Underwood on the 2nd September 1857.
Ann GROUBE emigrated from England on the William Watson and landed in New Plymouth on the 29th December 1857 to join her father and meet her Stepmother and half siblings. Soon afterwards she married a Professor Flood whom she had met aboard the ship.
By the mid 1850's the pioneering era of the New Plymouth settlement itself was about over. Nowhere now did the fringes of the settlement butt up against bush or untamed fern. It marked too, the end of Horatio's pioneering period.
As a Plymouth Company settler he had invested in a block of land and built himself and his large family a comfortable house. He was now able to settle down to enjoying his family and his small but productive farm, and to making more of a contribution to community affairs than his church building activities in the past.
Horatio became one of the "trustees in rotation' of the New Plymouth Savings Bank, that, is, periodically, for a week on end. He was also an enthusiastic supporter of the Taranaki Institute. He gave lectures on the life, philosophy and times of Socrates.
For the Groube family, as for all others in the community, this was a period of contentment and fulfillment after the years of pioneering.
Unfortunately it wasn't to last. It was the proverbial calm before the storm.
After the British settlers had arrived and founded the town of New Plymouth in 1841, almost immediately conflict arose over land tenure and purchase as exiled or enslaved Taranaki and Ati Awa people returned to their homelands. This followed the pacification brought about by the Treaty of Waitangi and increasing conversion to Christianity. Disputes sharpened, most violently, between Maori and Pakeha as the population of white settlers steadily increased.
The British troops arrived in 1855. The local magistrate called up all males between the ages of 16 and 60 years to be part of a local militia.
Conflict over the purchase of Ati Awa land at Waitara led to the declaration of martial law in February 1860 and the start of outright war on the 17th March 1860, a conflagration that quickly spread north to the Waikato, Bay of Plenty and East Coast.
The conflict escalated so much that the family had to flee their house at a days notice to the nearest place of safety.
On August 18th 1860 Horatio and Sarah's home was destroyed by Maori, as were 176 out of the 212 country homes in the area.
For all their willingness to destroy, however, the Maoris were meticulous in picking their targets. No church anywhere in the area was harmed, and in general terms the homes of the clergy were also respected. It must have been Maoris from outside the New Plymouth area, unaware of who owned the place, which burned the house down.
For three months the family took refuge in a church in the town. Twins, Sarah Jane and Horatio Montague were born in New Plymouth on the 29th November 1860. The family were then evacuated along with other refugees on the warship the H.M.V.S. Victoria to Auckland.
Horatio arrived back in New Plymouth on the 15th April 1861. He preached a sermon at the Wesleyan Chapel from the 21 Chapter Revelations 22 verse on the 21st April. He left again for Auckland on the 27th April 1861.
This was to be his last visit to New Plymouth. In their time in New Zealand Sarah and Horatio had become well thought of and played a very respectable role in the community.

Robert Snell who was in the fighting forces but was taken out and made to grow vegetables for the soldiers who lived in the barracks at nearby Fort Cameron, used the land that was owned by Horatio and Sarah. Robert later rented the land and grew vegetables on it for a living. This land was a kilometre from the coast and north of the centre of town at the top of Maricote Hill.

A public meeting had been held in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia on the 7th September 1860. This set up a fund with public subscriptions, plus a Victorian Government grant to alleviate privations and destitutions from the attack on the settlement of New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand.
Claims had been handled by Mr. W. Halse, solicitor of New Plymouth, sent to Victoria, and payments made to claimants through the New Zealand solicitor.
One of the claimants was the 60-year-old widow of the John Prout who had run stock on Sarah and Horatio's property. John had died on 20 November 1862 and his widow claimed for the loss of 3 cattle and 12 ewes valued at 43 pounds.
The Groube family also received aid through this fund and as a result they left New Zealand on May 11 1861 aboard the "Cheetah" bound for Newcastle, N.S.W. They arrived in Australia and stayed with friends in Sydney before resettling at Schnapper Point near Mornington in Victoria. Marion stayed behind in New Zealand. Ann and her husband Professor Flood also stayed.

After arriving in Australia, Horatio was soon back at work, taking up the pastorate of Schnapper Point where he remained until 1868.
Tragedy again struck Sarah and Horatio, as in 1862, they received a letter to say that Marion had passed away from pneumonia on the 28th April in New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand: -
"New Plymouth, New Zealand.
April 28th 1862.

Rev. H. Groube;
My Dear Friend,
The task of writing to you this time is indeed a very painful one to me, and will be much more so to you, Mrs. G and all the family.
Your respected daughter, Miss M. caught a cold last Monday and until last Thursday not much was thought of it. Mrs. had desired she would remain in bed but she thought it was not necessary. On Thursday Dr. Spense who was attending her called in Dr. Wilton.
She grew worse and this morning at 4 o'clock she breathed her last. Mrs. Cinker remained with her day and night. I believe every attention has been given her that could have been. Mrs. Flood states she has been to her everything she could have desired her to be. I am to proceed to our new cemetery to say where the grave must be. Each denomination must have a piece allotted to it. The funeral will take place on Wednesday at 2 o'clock.
Mrs. Flood will write you and give you full particulars. Reverend Whitley is also writing you. No encounter has occurred for some time which has caused so great a sensation.
With love to yourself and family, I remain,
Yours Truly,
F.W. Gledhill."

She was buried in the Te Henui Cemetery. The headstone reads: Sacred...body of Marion Groube, third daughter of Revd H Groube, died 28/4/1862 aged 16 years and 6 months.
It must have been hard on the family to have her die so far away.

In 1868 Horatio became pastor of the Brunswick Congregational Church and lived in Blyth Street, Brunswick. However, he resigned this position in 1872 and from that time never resumed the duties of the settled pastorate, but he was frequently engaged in preaching, especially for the Presbyterians.
Sarah and Horatio resided at Bridgeport St, Brunswick, Victoria between 1873 and 1876. They purchased a house at 17 Park St, Hawthorn on the 24th June 1876. On April 19th of the following year they also purchased the property at the rear of their own in Lydiard Street.
From that time until his death Horatio was closely associated with St. Augustines in Hawthorn, often preaching or singing in the choir.
In 1887 Horatio became the first beneficiary of the Ministers Provident Fund receiving a pension of twenty-four pounds and six shillings per annum. The following year it rose to twenty-seven pound twelve and eight.
Throughout his life Horatio had known little sickness until the infirmities of age began to quietly to assert themselves a few years before his death.
Horatio died in Hawthorn on the 13th December 1888 of cancer of the stomach and heart disease and was buried on Saturday the 15th December in Boroondara Cemetery, Kew. By this time he had a total of 27 grandchildren born, five of whom had passed away as infants.
Upon his death the Ministers Provident Fund paid eighty-nine pounds ten shilling and two pence to the widow and family, which was the fund's first payment.
Sarah Ann died 11 years later in 1899 at Hawthorn, and was buried on the 18th May Boroondara Cemetery, Kew. She had a total of 34 grandchildren born, but 8 had died as infants. Her son Harry Boulderson had predeceased her, passing away on the 6th of November 1894.

  Noted events in his life were:

• Occupation: Independent Church Minister.

• connection. My connection to Sandra Vaughan
is as follows:

Sandra Vaughan is linked in some way to . . .
Frederick Button (1830)
He had Frances Button (1867) who married Horatio Groube (1860)
His father was Rev Horatio Groube (1814) & he also had George Groube (1847)
He had Edith Groube (1880) who married Percy Howe (1866)
His father was Robert Howe (1833)
His father was Frederick Howe (1805)
His father was James Howe (1777)
His father was George Howe (1741) & he also had Sarah Howe (1775)
She had Alexander Moss (1811)
She had James Moss (1846)
He had Laura Kershaw Waldock or Moss (1864)
She had Winthrop Larkinson (1889)
He had Dulcie Larkinson (1926) who married Colin Davies (1925)
They had me- Robyn Bray (nee Davies) (1950)

• connection. Christina Goodman 's connection between me (Davies) through 1. Winton & Emery), through to 2. Nicol, 3. through Frogley & Larkinson 4. to Robert through Dawes 5. to Donna through Frogley
(1) My connection with Christina Goodman (through Winton & Emery) is as follows:
Christina Goodman . . .
Her Grandfather was . . .
Alan Waller (1901)
His father was George Waller (1860) & he also had William Waller (1887) who married May Jacobs (1887)
Her father was John Jacobs (1842) who married Elizabeth Burgess (1857)
Her father was John Burgess (1827) & he also had Henry Burgess (1860) who married Susanna Frogley (1864)
Her father was John Frogley (1831)
His father was John Frogley (1801) & he also had Elizabeth Frogley (1826) who married Alexander Giffin (1828)
They had John Giffin (1852)
He had Grace Giffin (1879) who married Ernest Peck (1875)
His father was John Peck (1852) who married Margaret Townsend (1853)
Her father was Henry Townsend (1831) who married Margaret Gosper (1829)
Her father was John Gosper (1801) & he also had Archibald Gosper (1842)
He had Amy Gosper (1872) who married William Shrimpton (1869)
His father was Richard Shrimpton (1826) & he also had Richard 3rd Shrimpton (1855) who married Susannah Jeffery (1857)
Her father was John Jeffery (1834)
His father was John Jeffery (1808)
His father was James Jeffery (1781) & he also had William Jeffery (1803)
He had James Jeffery (1837)
He had Mary Jeffery (1860) who married William South (1854)
They had Annie South (1891) who married Leslie Rice (1885)
They had Hazel Rice (1913) who married Emmett Whyte (1899)
They had Sandra Whyte (1943) who married Colin Parker (1936)
His father was Arthur Parker (1894)
His father was William Parker (1868) who married Martha Butler (1872)
Her father was Joseph Butler (1844) who married Elizabeth Roser (1844)
Her father was John Roser & he also had John Roser (1838)
He had George Roser (1868)
He had Charles Roser (1897)
He had George Roser (1923) who married Olive Elliot (1924)
Her mother was Doris Emery (1903)
Her mother was Phoebe Davies (1876)
Her father was Joseph Davies (1852) & he also had G. A. Davies (1894)
He had Colin Davies (1925)
He had me Robyn Bray (nee Davies) (1950)

(2) Christina Goodman's link to me through the Winton / Sutherland / Nicol line
Christina Goodman . . .
Her Grandfather was . . .
Alan Waller (1901)
His father was George Waller (1860) & he also had William Waller (1887) who married May Jacobs (1887)
Her father was John Jacobs (1842) who married Elizabeth Burgess (1857)
Her father was John Burgess (1827) & he also had Henry Burgess (1860) who married Susanna Frogley (1864)
His father was John Burgess (1827)
His father was John Burgess (1808) & he also had Clarinda Burgess (1845) who married John Morgan (c1845)
They had George Morgan (1870)
He had Allen Morgan (1909) who married Daphne Ashcroft (1917)
Her father was Claude Ashcroft (1888)
His father was Henry Ashcroft (1852)
His father was Henry Ashcroft (1827)
His father was John Ashcroft (1877) & he also had Anne Ashcroft (1825) who married James Booth
They had Sussanah Booth (1842) who married Henry Winton (1842)
They had Edward Winton who married Emily Collett (1877)
Her father Arthur Collett (1848) who married Rebecca Sutherland (1858)
Her father was John Sutherland (c1829) & he also had Elizabeth Sutherland (1863) who married John Nicol (1844)
They had Margaret Helen Nicol (1889) who married G. A. Davies (1894)
They had Colin Davies (1925)
Who had me (1950) - Robyn Bray (nee Davies) (1950)

(3) Christina Goodman's link to me through the Frogley & Larkinson line
Christina Goodman . . .
Her Grandfather was . . .
Alan Waller (1901)
His father was George Waller (1860) & he also had William Waller (1887) who married May Jacobs (1887)
Her father was John Jacobs (1842) who married Elizabeth Burgess (1857)
Her father was John Burgess (1827) & he also had Henry Burgess (1860) who married Susanna Frogley (1864)
Her father was John Frogley (1831)
His father was John Frogley (1801) & he also had Elizabeth Frogley (1826) who married Alexander Giffin (1828)
He had John Giffin (1850)
He had Clara Giffin (1885) who married George Pettis (1883)
They had Doris Petis (1913) who married Charles Buerckner (1905)
His father was Charles Buerckner (1868) who married Elizabeth Armstrong (1883)
Her father was Thomas Armstrong (1856)
His father was Andrew Armstrong (1827)
His father was Thomas (1791) & he also had Jane Armstrong (1816) who married Christopher Dixon (1812)
They had Janet Dixon (1843) who married Harry Hiscock (1846)
They had Frank Hiscock (1873) who married Emily Wallis (1875)
Her father was William Wallis (1849) who married Victorine Groube (1851)
Her father was Rev Horatio Groube (1814) & he also had George Groube (1847)
He had Edith Groube (1880) who married Percy Howe (1866)
His father was Robert Howe (1833)
His father was Frederick Howe (1805)
His father was James Howe (1777)
His father was George Howe (1741) & he also had Sarah Howe (1775)
She had Alexander Moss (1811)
She had James Moss (1846)
He had Laura Kershaw Waldock or Moss (1864)
She had Winthrop Larkinson (1889)
He had Dulcie Larkinson (1926) who married Colin Davies (1925)
She had me- Robyn Bray (nee Davies) (1950)

(4) Christina Goodman's link to Robert through Dawes is as follows:
Christina Goodman . . .
Her Grandfather was . . .
Alan Waller (1901)
His father was George Waller (1860) & he also had William Waller (1887) who married May Jacobs (1887)
Her father was John Jacobs (1842) who married Elizabeth Burgess (1857)
Her father was John Burgess (1827) & he also had Henry Burgess (1860) who married Susanna Frogley (1864)
Her father was John Frogley (1831)
His father was John Frogley (1801)
He had John Frogley (1831)
He had Susanna Frogley (1864) who married Henry Burgess (1860)
His father was John Burgess (1827)
His father was John Burgess (1808) & he also had Clarinda Burgess (1845) who married John Morgan (c1845)
They had George Morgan (1870)
He had Alan Morgan (1909) who married Daphne Ashcroft (1917)
Her father was Claude Ashcroft (1888)
His father was Henry Ashcroft (1852)
His father was Henry Ashcroft (1827)
His father was John Ashcroft (1877) & he also had Anne Ashcroft (1825) who married James Booth
They had Sussanah Booth (1842) who married Henry Winton (1842)
They had Edward Winton who married Emily Collett (1877)
Her father was Arthur Collett & he also had James Collett (1880) who married Florence Knight (1883)
Whose father was John Knight (1844) who married Ellen Pearson (1846)
Whose father was James Pearson (1813) & who also had Mary Pearson (1843) who married Richard Dawes (1845)
Whose father was Edward Bannister Dawes (1813) & he also had James (1843) who married Charlotte Peck (1843)
They had Annie Florence Dawes (1873) who married Arthur Augustus Bray
Who had Albert Bray (1896)
Who had Robert Alfred Bray (1920)
Who had Robert Arthur Bray (1947) who married me - Robyn Bray (nee Davies) (1950)

(5) Christina Goodman's (through Frogley & Judge & Bray) is as follows:
Christina Goodman . . .
Her Grandfather was . . .
Alan Waller (1901)
His father was George Waller (1860) & he also had William Waller (1887) who married May Jacobs (1887)
Her father was John Jacobs (1842) who married Elizabeth Burgess (1857)
Her father was John Burgess (1827) & he also had Henry Burgess (1860) who married Susanna Frogley (1864)
Her father was John Frogley (1831)
His father was John Frogley (1801)
He had John Frogley (1831)
He had Susanna Frogley (1864) who married Henry Burgess (1860)
They had Cleve Burgess (1899)
He had Doreen Burgess (1922) who married John Judge
They had Donna Judge (1949) who was partners with Robert Bray (1947) who also married me - Robyn Bray (nee Davies) (1950)

(6) Christina Goodman's link (through Keighran) is as follows:
Christina Goodman . . .
Her Grandfather was . . .
Alan Waller (1901)
His father was George Waller (1860) & he also had William Waller (1887) who married May Jacobs (1887)
Her father was John Jacobs (1842) who married Elizabeth Burgess (1857)
Her father was John Burgess (1827) & he also had Henry Burgess (1860) who married Susanna Frogley (1864)
Her father was John Frogley (1831)
His father was John Frogley (1801)
& he also had Elizabeth Frogley (1826) who married Alexander Giffin (1828)
They had John Giffin (1852)
He had Grace Giffin (1879) who married Ernest Peck (1875)
His father was John Peck (1852) who married Margaret Townsend (1853)
Her father was Henry Townsend (1831) who married Margaret Gosper (1829)
Her father was John Gosper (1801) & he also had Archibald Gosper (1842)
He had Amy Gosper (1872) who married William Shrimpton (1869)
His father was Richard Shrimpton (1826) & he also had Richard 3rd Shrimpton (1855) who married Susannah Jeffery (1857)
Her father was John Jeffery (1834)
His father was John Jeffery (1808)
His father was James Jeffery (1781) & he also had William Jeffery (1803)
He had James Jeffery (1837) who married Bridget Naughton (1828)
Her father was Edward Naughton (1803) & he also had Catherine Naughton (1831) who married John Broderick (1823)
They had Bridget Broderick (1857) who married Charles McAleer (1850)
His father was Owen MacAleer (c1810) & he also had Rose McAleer (1850) who married John Dooley (1845)
They had Roy Dooley (1896)
He had Gloria Dooley (1928) who married Leslie Peterson (1925)
His father was Levin Peterson (c1890) who married Alice Lillian Hall (1893)
Her father was William Hall (c1870) who married Matilda Darnley (nee Pye) who also married Joseph Keighran (1879)
They had Leslie William Keighran (1904)
He had Mary Keighran (1927) who married Mervyn Collins (1924)
They had Les Collins (1950) who married me Robyn Bray (nee Davies) (1950)

• Death Certificate Number: (13816).

Horatio married Julia Lever on 13 Dec 1838 in Honiton On Otter, Devon England. (Julia Lever was born about 1808 in Honiton On Otter, Devon England and died on 15 Feb 1841 in Honiton On Otter, Devon England.)

Horatio next married Sarah Ann Good, daughter of George Good and Unknown, on 28 Oct 1843 in New Plymouth, Taranaki New Zealand. (Sarah Ann Good was born about 1817, died on 16 May 1899 in Hawthorn, Melbourne, Victoria Australia and was buried on 18 May 1899 in Boroondara Cemetery, Kew, Victoria Australia.)