John William Ditcham

  Noted events in his life were:

• source. Tricia who writes:
He came out from Norfolk England, on "Woodbridge"1838 which was transporting convicts to a Penal Settlement on Norfolk Island. (Not yet proven" Word of Mouth).
It was heard that he was asked to fight the Maori's and refused, he did not believe in the cause and became a Police Officer for a short time in Victoria.


& John Beech @ genes
& Kerrie Williams @ genes who writes:
DITCHAM, Norfolk, 1700-1900, ralgy@aol.com Narelle Simons, PO Box 15, St. Pauls, N.S.W., 2031, Australia This message was posted on Genealogy.com. Home: Surnames: Norfolk Family Genealogy Forum Post FollowupReturn to Message ListingsPrint Message Ditcham family Posted by: narelle simons Date: August 30, 2001 at 22:34:57 of 98 Hi, I'm researching the Ditcham family of Norfolk. My great grandfather, John Ditcham was born in Smallburgh in 1808/9. He married Sarah Ann (unknown) born 1811 died 1853 in Sydney Australia. They had one known child, Elizabeth Mary born early 1830s who married George Folliett in 1852. John then married Sarah Doyle in 1853. They had 13 children. I am interested in all Ditcham families in Norfolk & Suffolk & their connecting lines. Any information would be very welcome. Regards, Narelle Simons (nee Ditcham). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://genforum.genealogy.com/mace/messages/1086.html This Post was on Genforum so is it possible that my John Ditcham's first wife, who was Sarah Unknown could possibly be Sarah Mace? Where did John's first wife die? Chat | Daily Search | My GenForum | Community Standards | Terms of Service Jump to Forum Home: Surnames: Mace Family Genealogy Forum JEM MACE - Timeline, spouses, children Posted by: Gloria Date: May 21, 2001 at 01:02:53 of 1852 [new info per encyclopedia + forum folks] 1805 Jem's father, William was born in Great Fransham (4 miles from Beeston). 1811 Thomas MACE born in Great Fransham then living (1851) in nearby Little Fransham ------------------------------------------- MACE, JAMES, 'JEM MACE' Jem, the SWAFFHAM GPYSY" Pugilist, circus fiddler; author of PRIZE RING RULES; teacher. 1831 April 8 born at Beeston, near SWAFFHAM, Norfolk. Was son of a tenant on the WINDHAM Estates there. 1910 Nov 30 died at JARROW 1851 CENSUS: Address: Timberhill St, Norwich Census Place: Norwich, St John Timberhill, Norwich, Norfolk James MACE : age 19, Lodger, Unmarried Occupation: Musician Born: Beeston-Nfk PRO Reference: HO/107/1814 Folio:106 Page:8 1860 Mace won the English MIDDLEWEIGHT championship. 1861 He then won the English HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE....lost it the next year...but once more was recognized as champion when his conqueror, Tom King, refused to fight him again. 1870-71 to America: May 10 1870..New Orleans re Allen. Nov 30 1871..New Orleans re Coburn 1871 (late)...Jem retired --------------------------------------------- 1872 Denver City, Colorado Territory fight with O'BALDWIN and "JEAN" the Bruiser [don't know if there is a connection, name change due to retired status, typo, or another individual...Gloria --------------------------------------------- Jem Mace....To Canada before return to London. Subsequently, he continued his boxing career in Australia and carried on a publican's business at Melbourne. [He set up a school of boxing in Australia] [stayed with the DITCHAM family...William & Thomas. 1839 John Ditcham married Hannah Mace] 1890 Feb 7...at almost 59...he lost to the world heavyweight contender Charley MITCHELL in three rounds in an attempt to regain the English title. At a time when most prizefighters were considered highly dubous persons, MACE was universally respected for his integrity. 1901 Returned to England...was in charge of the "BLACK BULL', Colville Street, Birmingham. Later, toured the country with travelling shows and gave sparring exhibitions till his death at JARROW on Nov 30 1910 Jem Mace married twice...late in life and had issue ---------------------------------------------- From our forum contributors: ....that Jem's son became a preacher. ....possibly a daughter ....Alfred "Bumpy" Mace was a member of the PLYMOUTH Bretherenly and was an evangelist. Daughter of Alfred "Bumpy" Mace: Suzzette Henrietta Mace is Jem's grandaughter.... TURVILLE: Owen Turville was decended from a Turville who married a daughter of Jem Mace JACOBS: Jem mace is the great grand father of Edith (Mary) Jacobs. Mary was born in the east end of london and married Edward (Ted ) Jacobs DITCHAM: When Jem came to Australia he stayed with the Ditcham family. William & Thomas Ditcham took up boxing & toured with Jems troupe. 1839 John Ditcham (seaman) married Hannah Mace in Great Yarmouth... -------------------------------------------- Hope this helps: I reviewed all JEM posts and tried to pick out what tips there are to build on. The above would help me help you if you can supply any dates or locations...I'll keep looking. Do we know Jem's full name? What is "Jem" short for? Glori ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://genforum.genealogy.com/angell/messages/755.html The ggrandfather mentioned at the bottom is John Ditcham. Jump to Forum Home: Surnames: Angell Family Genealogy Forum Re: ANGELL John - WILTSHIRE Posted by: Narelle Simons Date: January 28, 2001 at 15:49:01 In Reply to: Re: ANGELL John - WILTSHIRE by Sue Fragall of 1326 Hi Sue, I've been searching through all my old papers hoping to find Merle's letter to give you her address but it was so long ago, & I can't find it now. We only made contact once when she answered a message I placed in the paper & we exchanged info. on our lines & that was that. Barbara Angell whose line also came from S.A. also contacted me at the same time. I know there were a lot of Angell's living in S.A. but I always believed them to be descended from either Barbara's line or that of John or Joseph. I also believe these two lines will prove to be connected further back. I'm sorry if I mislead you Sue but Merle's info. doesn't state that John & Mary were actually married in S.A. or that John & Joseph were born there either. Going by the info. in the newspaper clipping John & Joseph both came to Aust. sometime in the 1840's indicating they were born in England. I wonder if they were the children of a previous marriage of either John or Mary as we know Mary was a widow prior to her marriage to John. Maybe Beryl may turn up something regarding this in her records. My great grandfather came out to Aust. in 1839 as part of the 96th Manchester regiment who were bringing prisoners out to Norfolk Island. My email address is ralgy@aol.com if you would like to contact me Sue. Regards, Narelle. -

• Occupation. John Ditcham was a soldier ( prison guard) in 96th Manchester & police officer

• emigrated. John Ditcham came to Australia came as John Ditchman on the Woodbridge in 1838 which was transporting prisoners to Norfolk Island. He also became a police officer for a short time in Victoria

John married Sarah Ann Mason or Deake on 15 Aug 1831 in St Michael At Thorn, Norwich, Norfolk England.⁶¹ (Sarah Ann Mason or Deake was born in 1811 in England UK, died on 24 Jun 1853 in Pitt St, Sydney, NSW Australia ³⁶⁷ and was buried on 26 Jun 1853 in St Stephens, Camperdown, Sydney, NSW Australia ³⁹³.)

John next married Sarah Ellen Doyle, daughter of Andrew Doyle and Margaret Hoban, on 12 Sep 1853 in St Philips C of E, York St, Sydney, NSW Australia. (Sarah Ellen Doyle was born on 22 Dec 1835 in Colraine, Queens County, New Orleans USA, died on 21 Feb 1894 in 1 Crown Lane, Wolloomoolloo, Sydney, NSW Australia ³⁶⁷ and was buried in Rookwood Cemetery, Lidcombe, Sydney, NSW Australia.)