Ellen Nock

  General Notes:

In the 1851 census was listed as being born in 1812 (but date varies between census 1811 -1812. In the 1861 census was listed as being born at Wolberhampton, In the 1871 census was listed as being born at The Rock.
Moved to West Yorkshire (perhaps when husband died) to live with son George by the 1851 census.
The 1881 census has Ellen widowed and living with her son & his 2 sons, her 2 daughters and 3 lodgers at Park Row, Normanton
Ken Shiels who notes that she was illiterate

Julia mapledip1 from Ancestry notes:

Dear Robyn,

Nice to meet you and I am happy to know that Ellen Nock went on to prosper. I have taken a note of your email address and if I can think of anything or find anything, I will send things across. I don't have much and have found most information on the internet or archives.

As you can probably tell from the tree, I come from Canada but live in the UK and have tried to use being here as a way of finding out about where everyone came from.

You can judge from the information that the family was involved in iron and coal production which fits where they lived. There does seem to be a technical or scientific bent in the Nock family judging by my father and grandfather. They come across as an ambitious and energetic group from the middling sort (as they put it in history books). The fact that Tobias Nock left a will shows how well he was doing.

Wolverhampton, Dudley and Birmingham were very much part of early industrialisation. The bits we have been to so far are a bit grim although the countryside around them is beautiful. In that area coal was in thick seams close to the surface so people did not have to dig huge mines to get it out. It was possible for middling men to have small collieries. As you can see, it was not a happy affair for Edwin Nock. There was a disaster at his mine and he was charged with manslaughter of the men and boys who died when the lift carrying them dropped. I have only read a bit of the newspaper coverage but it does sound as if the equipment (horses and wheels) were not kept in top form. It was a bit of a chilling discovery. I suspect that people then, especially in business, cut corners to make profits. There were no safety nets for your family if your business failed.

I know that my grandparents had reservations about the Nock family they were connected to. I don't know why and there is no one left to ask. In return I found out that Elizabeth Nock was known as "Poor Aunt Lizzie" to her English brother Harry Arthur Nock. Families!

There are apparently still Nocks in the Birmingham and Wolverhampton area and (having done the DNA test) am aware of many, many who carry the DNA in North America, especially the American south. I have no idea how but suspect there are no records to explain that. My great grandmother's brother went to Mexico and one of his descendants turned out to be an Olympic rower for Mexico in 2012. You can see her if you Google Deborah Oakley Gonzalez. She is lovely and now working in Toronto.

That is pretty much my total knowledge of the Nock family. I will hunt down a few things and send them over.

Many thanks for getting in touch.

Julia

  Noted events in her life were:

• fact. Moved to West Yorkshire (perhaps when husband died) to live with son George by the 1851 census.

• Alt. Birth. In 1851 census listed as being born in Wellington. In 1861 census listed as being born in Wolverhampton. In 1871 census listed as being born at Rock.

• source. Denise Holmes @ genes

• Census. Ellen was illiterate. By 1881 she was a widow living in Park Row, Normanton, Yorkshire with coal miner son George 35 (who had already been a coal miner for more than 20 years), 'imbecile' daughter Ann 33, daughter Eliiza(beth) 26 (a domestic servant), 2 grandchildren (one already a coal miner at 13) and 3 lodgers.

• Resided. Resided at Chapel St, Goldthorn Hill, Wolverhampton and
Park Row, Normanton, Yorkshire

• connection. ⁷⁸³ DonaldFMeek (Ancestry)'s links to me are as follows:
Donald Meek (c1930)
His parents were Joseph Meek (1896) & Florence Stone (1898)
His father was John Meek (1868) who married Jane Brotherton (1864)
Her father was John Brotherton (1834)
His father was Samuel Brotherton (1816) who married Harriett Simmonds (c1815)
Her father was Charles Simmonds (1793) who married Elizabeth Nock (1791)
Her father was John Nock (1764)
His father was William Nock (1740)
His father was William Nock (1717)
His father was William Nock (1691) & he also had Tobias Nock (1728)
He had Henry Nock (1773)
He had Ellen Nock (1809) who married Thomas Davis (c1805)
He had Joseph Davies (1852)
He had G. A. Davies (1894)
He had Colin Davies (1925)
He had me Robyn Bray (nee Davies) (1950)

• connection. ⁷⁸⁴ Heather Graham's links to me are as follows:

Heather Graham . . .
Is linked in some way to . . .
John Nock (1642) who married Jone Wilits (1634)
They had William Nock (1667)
He had William Nock (1691)
He had Tobias Nock (1728)
He had Henry Nock (1773)
He had Ellen Nock (1809) who married Thomas Davis (c1805)
He had Joseph Davies (1852)
He had G. A. Davies (1894)
He had Colin Davies (1925)
He had me Robyn Bray (nee Davies) (1950)

Ellen married Thomas Davis, son of Joseph Davis and Hannah Rooke, on 29 Apr 1833 in Sedgley, Staffordshire England. (Thomas Davis was born about 28 Jul 1805 in Wolverhampton, Staffordshire England, christened on 21 Sep 1806 in St Mathews Anglican, Walsall, Staffordshire England and died in Jan 1872 in Wolverhampton, Staffordshire England.)

  Noted events in their marriage were:

• fact. winesses to the marriage were Benjamin Morris and Elizabeth Dainty